2017-09-29 1:33 GMT+02:00 John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>:

> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The question is “what city will I see tomorrow”.
>>
>
> ​I know, and​
>
> ​it's gibberish because if tomorrow "I" doesn't mean a person who
> remembers being asked that question today then even Mr. I doesn't know what
> "I" will refer to tomorrow.
>
>
>> ​>​
>> You know what a city is,
>>
>
> ​Yes.​
>
>
> ​> ​
>> you know what seeing is
>>
>
> ​Yes.​
>
>
> ​> ​
>> you agree that I will survive
>>
>
> ​There is no agreement on that. ​
> Stathis Papaioannou
> ​will survive,  but unfortunately John Clark doesn't know who Mr. I is so
> has no opinion on what the fate of that gentleman will be.
>
>
>
>> ​> ​
>> But “I” is singular,
>>
>
> ​Exactly, and "I" has been duplicated ​so that personal pronoun can no
> longer be used by anyone who isn't a great fan of gibberish.
>
>
>
>> ​> ​
>> a single person cannot see both cities,
>>
>
> ​How is that relevant? The question concerns the future and remembering
> asking the question in the past, and a
>  single person
> ​ doesn't meet those specifications, ​two people do.
>
>
> ​>​
>> Imagination is limited by logic - I can’t imagine a square circle because
>> it is meaningless.
>>
>
> ​So is asking what *one *and only *one* city *"I"* will see after *"I" *have
> become *two*!
>
>
>> ​> ​
>> But I can imagine seeing one or other city with 1/2 probability;
>>
>
> ​I can't. After it's all over I can ​
> imagine
> ​having ​
> see
> ​n​
>  Moscow or having not seen it, but I can not imagine ​half seeing Moscow
> and half not seeing it.
>


Must be difficult to ask you to play coin flip... Can't imagine seeing you
wandering how you could see half head, half tail... bad faith always. or
peepee ? not sure now, maybe half peepee half bad faith...


> And
> probability
> ​ has no meaning if you can't specify what the probability is about, and
> if it's what Mr. You will or will not see then you can't because even Mr.
> You doesn't know what Mr. You means with all those Mr. You duplicating
> machines around. ​
>
>
>> ​> ​
>> it is meaningful, it is what I anticipate will happen,
>>
>
> ​I expect to see Santa Clauses workshop. Unlike questions all statements
> about expectations are meaningful, ​
>
> ​but not all of ​them turn out to be true.
>
>  John K Clark
>
>
>
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