On 3/3/2018 11:48 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 7:43 AM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

On 3/3/2018 1:47 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 10:41 PM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com>
wrote:
On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:51 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net>
wrote:

On 2/28/2018 3:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:

So what do you find more convincing:  An axiomatic proof that God
exists,
e.g. St Anslem's or Goedel's.  or The mere empirical absence of
evidence.

In these proves, God = Totality / Ultimate Reality / The Whole
Shebang. They don't mention commandments, or talking snakes or burning
bushes. I think you are proposing a false equivalence.


No, you are inserting one.  St Anselm proves that perfect being/agent
exists.  He didn't claim to prove any other mythology.  So the question
stands: Who ya gonna believe?  the axiomatic proof or your lyin' eyes?
I find St. Anselm's proof meaningless, because perfection is a human
concept, i.e. it is relative to our evolutionary niche and
circumstances. The perfect shot for the hunter is not the perfect shot
for the prey. Ok, so let's say that reality as a whole counts as the
perfect being. Perhaps. Could it be any other way that would be worse?
I meant "that would be better", of course.

Well I have a friend whose 12yr old daughter died of leukemia in great pain.
I think it could be better.
I understand what you are saying.
My point is this: could some totally that supports something as
complex as human beings not include little girls with leukemia?

"Could" implies a question about possibilities.  It's certainly logically possible that there not be such a disease as leukemia.  Is it nomologically possible?...not as far as we know.

Brent

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