On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 10:41 PM, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:51 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2/28/2018 3:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
>>
>> So what do you find more convincing:  An axiomatic proof that God exists,
>> e.g. St Anslem's or Goedel's.  or The mere empirical absence of evidence.
>>
>> In these proves, God = Totality / Ultimate Reality / The Whole
>> Shebang. They don't mention commandments, or talking snakes or burning
>> bushes. I think you are proposing a false equivalence.
>>
>>
>> No, you are inserting one.  St Anselm proves that perfect being/agent
>> exists.  He didn't claim to prove any other mythology.  So the question
>> stands: Who ya gonna believe?  the axiomatic proof or your lyin' eyes?
>
> I find St. Anselm's proof meaningless, because perfection is a human
> concept, i.e. it is relative to our evolutionary niche and
> circumstances. The perfect shot for the hunter is not the perfect shot
> for the prey. Ok, so let's say that reality as a whole counts as the
> perfect being. Perhaps. Could it be any other way that would be worse?

I meant "that would be better", of course.

> If not, then it's perfect. I don't think one can weigh these
> abstractions against the empirical evidence that we have against the
> literal interpretation of religious texts.
>
> Telmo.
>
>> Brent
>>
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