On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 11:00 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > On 3/3/2018 11:48 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 7:43 AM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 3/3/2018 1:47 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 10:41 PM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:51 PM, Brent Meeker <meeke...@verizon.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/28/2018 3:38 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> So what do you find more convincing: An axiomatic proof that God >>>>>> exists, >>>>>> e.g. St Anslem's or Goedel's. or The mere empirical absence of >>>>>> evidence. >>>>>> >>>>>> In these proves, God = Totality / Ultimate Reality / The Whole >>>>>> Shebang. They don't mention commandments, or talking snakes or burning >>>>>> bushes. I think you are proposing a false equivalence. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No, you are inserting one. St Anselm proves that perfect being/agent >>>>>> exists. He didn't claim to prove any other mythology. So the >>>>>> question >>>>>> stands: Who ya gonna believe? the axiomatic proof or your lyin' eyes? >>>>> >>>>> I find St. Anselm's proof meaningless, because perfection is a human >>>>> concept, i.e. it is relative to our evolutionary niche and >>>>> circumstances. The perfect shot for the hunter is not the perfect shot >>>>> for the prey. Ok, so let's say that reality as a whole counts as the >>>>> perfect being. Perhaps. Could it be any other way that would be worse? >>>> >>>> I meant "that would be better", of course. >>> >>> >>> Well I have a friend whose 12yr old daughter died of leukemia in great >>> pain. >>> I think it could be better. >> >> I understand what you are saying. >> My point is this: could some totally that supports something as >> complex as human beings not include little girls with leukemia? > > > "Could" implies a question about possibilities. It's certainly logically > possible that there not be such a disease as leukemia. Is it nomologically > possible?...not as far as we know.
Well I'm not sure it's logically possible, for the reasons that Bruno already addressed. But the meta-point is this: notice that we are not discussing talking snakes or divine commandments. Telmo. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
