On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 5:03 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Bruce Kellett <bhkell...@optusnet.com.au> > wrote: >> >> > If the theory is that if the observable behaviour of the brain is >> > replicated, then consciousness will also be replicated, then the clear >> > corollary is that consciousness can be inferred from observable behaviour. > > Yes. >> >> > Which implies that I can be as certain of the consciousness of other >> > people as I am of my own. > > No. The idea that consciousness can be inferred from intelligent behavior is > an axiom of existence,
People commit acts of cruelty against animals with highly sophisticated behaviors all the time. Not to speak of slavery, and all the people already dreaming of AI-slavery, Blade Runner style. > it has no proof and will never have a proof but it > sure seems like its true, and every sane human being uses it every hour of > their waking life. And there is always a element of doubt in real life, or > at least there should be, so something need not provide absolute certainty > to be enormously useful. As for my own consciousness I don’t have a proof of > that either but I don’t need one because I’ve got the one thing that can > pull rank even over proof, direct experience. I agree with all that you say above. Telmo. >> >> > This seems to do some violence to the 1p/1pp/3p distinctions > > Bruno’s the one who started pushing that ridiculous phrase, I suppose he > thought it sounded more profound erudite and scientific than “the difference > between you and me”. And I would maintain nobody outside a looney bin has > difficulty finding the "1p/1pp/3p distinction”. > > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
