> On 13 Apr 2018, at 23:48, [email protected] wrote: > > > > On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 9:28:02 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > On 4/13/2018 12:24 PM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote: >> >> >> On Friday, April 13, 2018 at 6:53:23 PM UTC, Brent wrote: >> >> >> On 4/13/2018 6:44 AM, [email protected] <> wrote: >>> But since the momentum of either particle doesn't pre-exist the >>> measurement, there is a FTL influence, which IS hard to understand. In >>> fact, I doubt anyone does understand it. AG >> >> What would it mean to "understand it" besides being able to use the >> equations to make correct inferences? >> >> Brent >> >> It's an ostensible contradiction with relativity that information transfer >> cannot be instantaneous. Now please don't use the semantic dodge that there >> is no information transfer because it's just an "influence". AG > > It's not a semantic dodge. It's a provable consequence of quantum randomness > that correlations can't be used to transfer information FTL. > > Brent > > We all know, or should, that an informational message cannot be sent using > non locality, but something is sent -- aka an INFLUENCE, which I call a dodge > -- instantaneously regardless of distance. Not understandable with our > current understanding of space-time. AG
Yes, but that does not happen in the many-histories view of reality. Still less in arithmetic, although there too we get an explanation of why things have to look indeterminate and non-local (and non boolean, non entirely computable, continuous, etc.). Physical reality is similar to consistency, and god. It exists, but cannot be assumed without leading to difficulties and contradictions. Bruno > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
