On Saturday, April 14, 2018 at 4:03:49 PM UTC, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/14/2018 6:04 AM, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote: > > But non-locality is avoided by the randomness...so that no information is >> transmitted. >> > > *So every physicist, I would say virtually without exception, believes QM > is a non local theory except you. * > > > No. They agree with me that no information can be transmitted FTL. > That's the definition of local. >
*Come back when you can explain "instantaneous influence". No one can explain it, and neither can you. BTW, I never * * claimed information can be transferred FTL, just "influences", like just about everyone who thinks about the subject. But what is an "influence"? I submit you have no clue. AG* > > *Why do you post the obvious in an excuse for a rebuttal? -- that no > information is transferred -- when you KNOW what we're discussing; namely, > that there appears to be an "influence" (for lack of a better word) that is > transferred INSTANTANEOUSLY. You're the one in denial, not me. AG* > > >> You're like the person who says, "Now it's momentum has changed from an >> unknowable indefinite value to an unknowable definite value. It's >> witchcraft!" >> > > Your problem is that you imagine that you perfectly understand the > Newtonian world view. It's like water to a fish for you. But space and > time are themselves unexplained. > *I don't imagine anything of the sort. AG * > > *As for the Newtonian conservation laws, IIRC they're provable based on > Newton's laws of motion and don't challenge our current understanding of > space-time. AG * > > > What "understanding of spacetime"? > *Ideas like particles or events can be spatially and temporally separated, or not. Is this the first time you've heard this idea? AG * > That understanding is no more than facility in using it to make > predictions. > *It's more than that. It's the world, wherein we exist. See above. AG * > > Brent > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
