On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 11:19:22 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 13 Apr 2018, at 18:05, 'scerir' via Everything List <
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> Bruce:
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> 'As has been explained, entanglement is the consequence of any interaction 
> whatsoever. Measurement is just a particular kind of interaction, one that 
> is controlled and monitored, but otherwise not special.' 
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> It seems (to me) also interesting the scheme to create, "ex post", distant 
> entangled atomic states. 
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> https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9810013
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> Sometimes this seems also called "time-reversed EPR"
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> https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0205182
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> The second paper is quite interesting and is a good review, notably of 
> Hardy thought experiment, which was itself a good recap of QM weirdness 
> (even with a single particle interference).
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> I have use a similar argument that QM implies acting on the past (a long 
> time ago, before Aspect experience), but I was assuming realism, which 
> seems here to be just the mono-universe hypothesis. Again, with the 
> multiverse or better the relative state theory (Everett), there is no 
> physical action on the past, but a self-localzation---in which relative 
> branch we, and our coupled observer that we can eventually meet (not the 
> others!), are.
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> Bruno
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It's hard to believe that people can be so dumb, really dumb, to think QM 
means other copies of themselves are the result of experiments in this 
world.  But unfortunately, they ARE that dumb. I see it as a kind of mental 
disease. AG

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