On 6/18/2018 4:27 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 9:57 PM, Brent Meeker <[email protected]
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On 6/17/2018 4:43 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On 17 June 2018 at 13:26, <[email protected]
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On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 10:15:05 AM UTC, Jason wrote:
On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 12:12 AM, <[email protected]
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why do you prefer the MWI compared to the
Transactional Interpretation?
I see both as absurd. so I prefer to assume the wf
is just epistemic, and/or
that we have some holes in the CI which have yet
to be resolved. AG
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1. It's the simplest theory: "MWI" is just the
Schrodinger equation,
nothing else. (it doesn't say Schrodinger's equation
only applies sometimes,
or only at certain scales)
2. It explains more while assuming less (it explains
the appearance of
collapse, without having to assume it, thus is
preferred by Occam's razor)
3. Like every other successful physical theory, it is
linear, reversible
(time-symmetric), continuous, deterministic and does
not require faster than
light influences nor retrocausalities
4. Unlike single-universe or epistemic
interpretations, "WF is real" with
MWI is the only way we know how to explain the
functioning of quantum
computers (now up to 51 qubits)
5. Unlike copenhagen-type theories, it attributes no
special physical
abilities to observers or measurement devices
6. Most of all, theories of everything that assume a
reality containing
all possible observers and observations lead directly
to laws/postulates of
quantum mechanics (see Russell Standish's Theory of
Nothing, Chapter 7 and
Appendix D).
Given #6, we should revise our view. It is not MWI and
QM that should
convince us of many worlds, but rather the assumption
of many worlds (an
infinite and infinitely varied reality) that gives us,
and explains all the
weirdness of QM. This should overwhelmingly convince
us of MWI-type
everything theories over any single-universe
interpretation of quantum
mechanics, which is not only absurd, but completely
devoid of explanation.
With the assumption of a large reality, QM is made
explainable and
understandable: as a theory of observation within an
infinite reality.
Jason
You forgot #7. It asserts multiple, even infinite copies
of an observer,
replete with memories, are created when an observer does a
simple quantum
experiment. So IMO the alleged "cure" is immensely worse
than the disease,
CI, that is, just plain idiotic. AG
It is important to make the distinction between our intuition and
common sense and actual formal reasoning. The former can guide the
latter very successfully, but the history of science teaches
us that
this is not always the case. You don't provide an argument,
you just
present your gut feeling as if it were the same thing as
irrefutable
fact.
I think Scott Aaronson has the right attitude toward this:
https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=326
<https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=326>
As such a strong believer in quantum computers (he's staked $100,000
of his own money on the future construction of large scale quantum
computers), I would love to ask Scott Aaronson what he thinks about
running a conscious AI on such a quantum computer. That trivially
leads to "many worlds" at least as seen by that AI.
If it's so trivial maybe you can explain it. And you don't have wonder
about Aaronson thinks, go check his blog. I'm pretty sure he's posted
about it.
QM also tells us that Wigner's friend, is no different from that "AI
running on a quantum computer".
I get kind of tire do being told that QM tells us this or that. QM is
just another theory. Ptolemy's theory told us the Sun went around the
Earth. You do realize that QM is inconsistent with GR?
Brent
Jason
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