> On 18 Jun 2018, at 19:21, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 12:55 AM, Brent Meeker <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > >JKC has mis-stated CI. CI didn't say QM as embodied in the SWE was the > >theory of the world. Bohr and Heisenberg both held that the classical > >world was logically prior to the quantum > > If so then forget string theory, Newton discovered the theory that fully > describes the fundamental underlying nature of reality way back in 1687. And > nobody knows what Copenhagen is saying. Bohr, Heisenberg, Wigner and Wheeler > all said they are ardent believers in the Copenhagen interpretation but > Wigner, a Nobel Prize winner, thought consciousness collapsed the quantum > wave function while Heisenberg, another Nobel prize winner, insisted it did > not; and that's a pretty big difference in my opinion. And John Wheeler was > Hugh Everett's thesis adviser and even wrote a letter to Bohr that still > exists saying that Many Worlds is fully consistent with the Copenhagen > Interpretation! As for Niels Bohr, he said "Never express yourself more > clearly than you are able to think” and as a result of that to this day > people are still arguing about what the man was trying to say. > > So before we start debating its pros and cons we should figure out what the > hell the Copenhagen Interpretation is.
There are many interpretations, of both “SWE" (Everett) and "SWE +collapse” (Copenhagen), which are two different theories. Bohm gives one more different theory SWE + a particle guiding potential. Everett says so explicitly: he provides a new formulation of QM, not a new interpretation. Bruno > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
