> On 5 Nov 2018, at 02:56, Martin Abramson <martinabrams...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Consciousness is a program.

Consciousness might be related to a program, but is not a program, that would 
identify a first person notion with a third person notion, like a glass of bear 
and its price.



> It explores whatever entity it finds itself within and becomes that 
> creature's awareness of the world. For humans it becomes the identity or soul 
> which responds to anything that affects the organism. It can be uploaded into 
> a data bank but otherwise it dissipates with death.  


How? We can attach a soul to a machine, but a machine cannot attach its soul to 
any particular computations, only to the infinity of (relative) computations, 
and there is at least aleph_zero one, of not a continuum.

Bruno




> 
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 7:49 PM John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:johnkcl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 7:22 PM Philip Thrift <cloudver...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:cloudver...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> > By "experience", philosophers (like Galen Strawson, Philip Goff) mean that 
> > which you have within yourself right now: the awareness that [...]
> 
> Awareness? But awareness is just another word for consciousness, so when you 
> say  "It's that experience (not just information) that needs processing to 
> produce consciousness" you're saying that to produce consciousness you must 
> process consciousness. I don't find that very helpful.
> > I assume I can be outsmarted by Watson on Jeopardy!
> 
> Then Watson't intelligence isn't very pseudo.
> 
> John K Clark   
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