On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 10:44:05 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 27 Nov 2018, at 20:21, Brent Meeker <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
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> What is this "primary matter" of which you speak? 
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> X is Primary means basically that we have to assume X (or something judged 
> enough equivalent).
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> The idea of primary matter is the (physicalist) idea that we have to 
> assume a bit of physics, to get the physical law. It is used by people who 
> dislike the idea that matter might be explained without assuming anything 
> physical. 
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My understanding of "primary matter" is that it is what matter (hyle) is 
before it meets form, hence *hylomorphism *[ 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hylomorphism 
]. 

Thomas Aquinas thought (from what I've read) that matter is that which 
gives forms individual instances, or "character", like individual trees, or 
people, etc.





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> molecules? 
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> Assuming contemporary chemistry, molecules are explained by quarks and 
> electrons, and quantum mechanics.
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Why are there so many articles today that claim to refute this?

[ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3262307/ ]
[ 
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction/historical-contingency-and-the-futility-of-reductionism-why-chemistry-and-biology-is-not-physics/
 
]

 - pt

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