> On 30 Nov 2018, at 17:44, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 6:39:19 AM UTC-6, [email protected] wrote:
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> On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 9:13:29 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>> 
>> This may be a simplistic pov, but since there was IMO no Original Sin, there 
>> was no need for a Sacrifice for its forgiveness. Under this view, 
>> Christianity is overwhelmingly an illusion. And since Theology seems to be 
>> primarily an extended argument about the historical history and truths about 
>> Christianity, it too is essentially worthless; an extended wrangling over 
>> nothing. AG 
> 
> That comes from the 1500 years of brainwashing. I use theology in the sense 
> of Plato, not the Gospel. Only atheists believe in JC,
> 
> Really? It seems you never met any Christians on a personal level. If you 
> did, you'd see how uninformed you are. AG
>  
> except for the TV evangelist, which are arguably con men.
> That was the goal of the Christian after 529. To make us forget that the 
> original question of the greeks was about the existence of a (primary) 
> physical universe. God exist by definition: it is, by definition, the truth 
> we intuit to be larger than ourselves.
> 
> I really doubt the question about the nature of matter has been forgotten. AG 
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> 
> 
> There is no truth outside of language, and matter's just another word for 
> nothing left to lose.


Language have no relation with truth a priori. Theories might have. Semantics 
are truth “by definition”, by relativising it to the notion of model/reality.

Bruno





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