On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 9:36:39 AM UTC-6, Jason wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 2:53 AM Philip Thrift <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> >> >> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 2:27:45 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote: >>> >>> >>> I think truth is primitive. >>> >>> Jason >>> >> >> >> As a matter of linguistics (and philosophy), *truth* and *matter* are >> linked: >> >> "As a matter of fact, ..." >> "The truth of the matter is ..." >> "It matters that ..." >> ... >> [ https://www.etymonline.com/word/matter ] >> > > I agree they are linked. Though matter may be a few steps removed from > truth. Perhaps one way to interpret the link more directly is thusly: > > There is an equation whose every solution (where the equation happens to > be *true*, e.g. is satisfied when it has certain values assigned to its > variables) maps its variables to states of the time evolution of the wave > function of our universe. You might say that we (literally not > figuratively) live within such an equation. That its truth reifies what we > call matter. > > But I think truth plays an even more fundamental roll than this. e.g. > because the following statement is *true* "two has a successor" then > there exists a successor to 2 distinct from any previous number. > Similarly, the *truth* of "9 is not prime" implies the existence of a > factor of 9 besides 1 and 9. > > Jason > > > > >> >> Schopenhauer 's view: "A judgment has *material truth* if its concepts >> are based on intuitive perceptions that are generated from sensations. If a >> judgment has its reason (ground) in another judgment, its truth is called >> logical or formal. If a judgment, of, for example, pure mathematics or pure >> science, is based on the forms (space, time, causality) of intuitive, >> empirical knowledge, then the judgment has transcendental truth." >> [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth ] >> >> > I guess I am referring to transcend truth here. Truth concerning the > integers is sufficient to yield the universe, matter, and all that we see > around us. > > Jason >
In my view there is basically just *material* (from matter) truth and *linguistic* (from language) truth. [ https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2018/06/18/to-tell-the-truth/ ] Relations and functions are linguistic: relational type theory (RTT) , functional type theory (FTT) languages. Numbers are also linguistic beings, the (fictional) semantic objects of Peano arithmetic (PA). Numbers can be "materialized" via *nominalization *(cf. Hartry Field, refs. in [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartry_Field ]). - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

