On Sunday, December 9, 2018 at 9:36:39 AM UTC-6, Jason wrote:
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> On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 2:53 AM Philip Thrift <[email protected] 
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>> On Saturday, December 8, 2018 at 2:27:45 PM UTC-6, Jason wrote:
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>>> I think truth is primitive.
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>>> Jason
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>> As a matter of linguistics (and philosophy),  *truth* and *matter* are 
>> linked:
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>> "As a matter of fact, ..."
>> "The truth of the matter is ..."
>> "It matters that ..."
>> ...
>> [ https://www.etymonline.com/word/matter ]
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> I agree they are linked.  Though matter may be a few steps removed from 
> truth.  Perhaps one way to interpret the link more directly is thusly:
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> There is an equation whose every solution (where the equation happens to 
> be *true*, e.g. is satisfied when it has certain values assigned to its 
> variables) maps its variables to states of the time evolution of the wave 
> function of our universe.  You might say that we (literally not 
> figuratively) live within such an equation.  That its truth reifies what we 
> call matter.
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> But I think truth plays an even more fundamental roll than this.  e.g. 
> because the following statement is *true* "two has a successor" then 
> there exists a successor to 2 distinct from any previous number.  
> Similarly, the *truth* of "9 is not prime" implies the existence of a 
> factor of 9 besides 1 and 9.
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> Jason
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>> Schopenhauer 's view: "A judgment has *material truth* if its concepts 
>> are based on intuitive perceptions that are generated from sensations. If a 
>> judgment has its reason (ground) in another judgment, its truth is called 
>> logical or formal. If a judgment, of, for example, pure mathematics or pure 
>> science, is based on the forms (space, time, causality) of intuitive, 
>> empirical knowledge, then the judgment has transcendental truth."
>> [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth ]
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> I guess I am referring to transcend truth here. Truth concerning the 
> integers is sufficient to yield the universe, matter, and all that we see 
> around us.
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> Jason
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In my view there is basically just *material* (from matter) truth and 
*linguistic* (from language) truth.

[ https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2018/06/18/to-tell-the-truth/ ] 

Relations and functions are linguistic: relational type theory (RTT) , 
functional type theory (FTT) languages.

Numbers are also linguistic beings, the (fictional) semantic objects of 
Peano arithmetic (PA).

Numbers can be "materialized" via *nominalization *(cf. Hartry Field, refs. 
in [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartry_Field ]).

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