On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 1:02:52 PM UTC-6, [email protected]
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> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 6:44:34 PM UTC, Philip Thrift wrote:
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>> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 12:32:51 PM UTC-6, [email protected]
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>>> * As for physicists being materialists in the sense of believing there
>>> is nothing underlying matter as its cause, I have never heard that position
>>> articulated by any physicist, in person or on the Internet. AG *
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>> Victor Stenger
>> *Materialism Deconstructed?*
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>> https://www.huffingtonpost.com/victor-stenger/materialism-deconstructed_b_2228362.html
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> *I was once a member of Vic's discussion group. Vic believed in the
> reality of matter, in the sense that if you kick it, it kicks back. But he
> didn't deny the possibility that there could be something more fundamental
> underlying matter. This denial is what Bruno claims is the materialist
> position, but it surely wasn't Vic's position. You know this, of course,
> being a member of that group. Right? AG*
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>> - pt
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I hosted Vic in Dallas in 2014 for a talk. I got to know him fairly
personally .
Homages to philosophical materialism ("matter is the fundamental substance
in nature") is in his books. *Timeless Reality* in particular.
One can be open-minded, or *ironist *in Rorty's definition
[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironism ], and he was that.
But despite all the "models" talk, I would confidently say he was always a
hardcore materialist.
- pt
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