On Friday, December 14, 2018 at 10:36:29 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 12/14/2018 10:41 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > One type of objection might be that matter is a mystery, but math > > isn't. But I think complexity theorists (like Chaitin) have shown that > > math is a mystery too. > > Actually the argument has been made the other way. Math is not a > mystery, it is completely known as are fictional stories like "Moby > Dick". What is written down in all there is. If you ask what was the > beam of the Pequod there is no corresponding fact. But if you ask what > was the beam of the Pinta, there was such a value, even if you can't > find what it was. So real things are more complex and are not > completely definable. > > Brent >
When I think of "math is a mystery" I'm going mainly back to *The Limits of Reason* *Ideas on complexity and randomness originally suggested by Gottfried W. Leibniz in 1686, **combined with modern information theory, imply that there can never be a “theory of everything” for all of mathematics.* By Gregory Chaitin - http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~robins/The_Limits_of_Reason_Chaitin_2006.pdf - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

