> On 17 Dec 2018, at 11:26, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
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> 
> On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:58:36 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> 
>> On 14 Dec 2018, at 19:41, Philip Thrift <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
>> wrote:
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> 
>> But suppose that "mathematics is material”.
> 
> What could that even mean? 
> 
> 
> 
> It means (in the approach I like) that math is fiction, just as defined in 
> Fictionalism in the Philosophy of Mathematics
> 
>     [ https://www.iep.utm.edu/mathfict/ ] 
> 
> (mainly beginning with the definition given by Hartry Field).
> 
> This is a very clearly written article. I don't see what the mystery is to 
> "mathematics is material". (One can disagree with fictionalism, but at least 
> one should read about what it is).
> 
> 
> (An alternative to fictionalism is constructivism.)


Those are solipsistic philosophies. We recover them in the S4Grz1 ([]p &p) 
self-referential mode. Yes, some machine get stuck in there, but others are 
able to bet that their are not alone, and eventually to see that []p and []p & 
p, despite hopefully the same (as G* knows) obey quite different logic.

But that provides also an explanation of matter, so no need to introduce an 
ontological commitment. The appearances and laws of physics are explained by 
not much more than 2+2=4; in a testable way. So let us pursue the test instead 
of invoking a God, like Matter (Aristotle second God).

Bruno



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