> On 17 Dec 2018, at 11:39, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 3:58:36 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> 
> Mathematics is not philosophy. No need to assume a Platonic realm. You assume 
> only things like A->(B->A), or x + 0 = x, etc. 
> 
> 
> In the order of things I assume:
> 
> 1. I am conscious.

You don’t need to assume it, nor can you, as it is not a formalisable notion. 
It is close to self-consistency, which, despite being true on PA makes PA 
inconsistent if assumed, or makes it into a new machine, where the same choice 
occur.

Now, I know what you mean.




> 2. Matter is all there is.

No problem with such axiom, but you will need a non mechanist theory of mind. 
And also some more explanation of what is matter, and how you derive 2+2=4 in 
the theory.

And predict some old facts with less, or some new facts, etc.




> ...
> >=3. "x+0=x” 

The optimist believes that x+0 is slightly bigger than x, and the pessimist 
believes that x+0 is slightly smaller than x. 
But they are both deluded and confuse 0 with an infinitesimal.

Bruno




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