On 12/14/2018 10:41 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:
One type of objection might be that matter is a mystery, but math isn't. But I think complexity theorists (like Chaitin) have shown that math is a mystery too.
Actually the argument has been made the other way. Math is not a mystery, it is completely known as are fictional stories like "Moby Dick". What is written down in all there is. If you ask what was the beam of the Pequod there is no corresponding fact. But if you ask what was the beam of the Pinta, there was such a value, even if you can't find what it was. So real things are more complex and are not completely definable.
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