On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 10:57 AM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 5:19 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 10:09 AM Jason Resch <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> If you include all events as as present moments, and say that they all
>>> exist, then how is this different from the block-time view (which says only
>>> that all points in time exist and are real)?
>>>
>>
>> They differ in exactly the same was a 10^80 protons differs from one
>> proton. The block-time view claims that all moments exist timelessly and
>> simultaneously. As well as being inconsistent with the relativity of
>> simultaneity, the notion is incoherent.
>>
>
> Why is it incoherent?  What does moments popping out of existence do to
> make the conception more coherent?
>

The notion of present moments "popping into and out of existence" makes
sense only in terms of some external concept of time. If the present moment
is all that exists at the moment, then it can't be said to "pop" from
anywhere because it doesn't exist in any external timeless sense. If time
is simply what you read on your local clock, the idea of a block universe
becomes incoherent, because it requires time to be something other than
that which you read on your local clock.

Bruce

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