On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 6:25 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 10:57 AM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 5:19 PM Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 10:09 AM Jason Resch <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> If you include all events as as present moments, and say that they all >>>> exist, then how is this different from the block-time view (which says only >>>> that all points in time exist and are real)? >>>> >>> >>> They differ in exactly the same was a 10^80 protons differs from one >>> proton. The block-time view claims that all moments exist timelessly and >>> simultaneously. As well as being inconsistent with the relativity of >>> simultaneity, the notion is incoherent. >>> >> >> Why is it incoherent? What does moments popping out of existence do to >> make the conception more coherent? >> > > The notion of present moments "popping into and out of existence" makes > sense only in terms of some external concept of time. If the present moment > is all that exists at the moment, then it can't be said to "pop" from > anywhere because it doesn't exist in any external timeless sense. If time > is simply what you read on your local clock, the idea of a block universe > becomes incoherent, because it requires time to be something other than > that which you read on your local clock. > I would say that if time is simply what you read on your local clock, then the idea of a block universe becomes the only coherent view. I don't know why you think block-time somehow redefines what time is. It merely says events in space time don't pop into or out of existence, they simply exist. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
