On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 1:27 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

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> On 12/20/2018 1:49 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
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> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 8:05 PM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 6:16 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> *> The Shrodinger equation is deterministic.*
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>> Yes.
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>>  > *Quantum Randomness, like a moving present, is a subjective
>>> phenomenon.*
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>> The Schrodinger equation describes the quantum wave function using
>> complex numbers, and that is not observable so it's subjective in the same
>> way that lines of latitude and longitude are. However the square of the
>> absolute value of the wave function is observable because that produces a
>> probability that we can measure in the physical world that is objective,
>> provided  anything deserves that word; but it also yields something that is
>> not deterministic.
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> It is still deterministic.  If you say otherwise you are introducing
> "collapse", and saying the other unobserved outcomes have stopped existing
> and are no long part of the system.  Schrodinger's equation does not say
> this is what happened, it just says that you have ended up with a system
> with many sets of observers, each of which observed different outcomes.
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> You seem to think Schroedinger's equation was handed down to him on stone
> tablets from God.
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QM is the most accurate and successful theory in science. I will believe it
until something better comes along.

Jason

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