On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 10:30 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On 12/20/2018 4:38 PM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 1:27 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> On 12/20/2018 1:49 AM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 8:05 PM John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 6:16 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> *> The Shrodinger equation is deterministic.* >>> >>> >>> Yes. >>> >>> > *Quantum Randomness, like a moving present, is a subjective >>>> phenomenon.* >>> >>> >>> The Schrodinger equation describes the quantum wave function using >>> complex numbers, and that is not observable so it's subjective in the same >>> way that lines of latitude and longitude are. However the square of the >>> absolute value of the wave function is observable because that produces a >>> probability that we can measure in the physical world that is objective, >>> provided anything deserves that word; but it also yields something that is >>> not deterministic. >>> >>> >> It is still deterministic. If you say otherwise you are introducing >> "collapse", and saying the other unobserved outcomes have stopped existing >> and are no long part of the system. Schrodinger's equation does not say >> this is what happened, it just says that you have ended up with a system >> with many sets of observers, each of which observed different outcomes. >> >> >> You seem to think Schroedinger's equation was handed down to him on stone >> tablets from God. >> > > QM is the most accurate and successful theory in science. I will believe > it until something better comes along. > > > It was the most accurate and successful theory in science well before > Everett came along. > It wasn't a mathematical theory until Everett came along and deleted the unmathematical and loosely defined part that was incompatible with half a dozen scientific principles. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
