On 12/20/2018 4:38 PM, Jason Resch wrote:


On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 1:27 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:



    On 12/20/2018 1:49 AM, Jason Resch wrote:


    On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 8:05 PM John Clark <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 6:16 PM Jason Resch
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            /> The Shrodinger equation is deterministic./


        Yes.

            > /Quantum Randomness, like a moving present, is a
            subjective phenomenon./

        The Schrodinger equationdescribes the quantum wave function
        using complex numbers, and that is not observable so it's
        subjective in the same way that lines of latitude and
        longitude are. However the square of the absolute value of
        the wave function is observable because that produces a
        probability that we can measure in the physical world that is
        objective, provided  anything deserves that word; but it also
        yields something that is not deterministic.


    It is still deterministic.  If you say otherwise you are
    introducing "collapse", and saying the other unobserved outcomes
    have stopped existing and are no long part of the system.
    Schrodinger's equation does not say this is what happened, it
    just says that you have ended up with a system with many sets of
    observers, each of which observed different outcomes.

    You seem to think Schroedinger's equation was handed down to him
    on stone tablets from God.


QM is the most accurate and successful theory in science. I will believe it until something better comes along.

It was the most accurate and successful theory in science well before Everett came along.

Brent

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