On Saturday, December 22, 2018 at 3:42:04 AM UTC-6, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 21 Dec 2018, at 03:22, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
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> The universe we see is the only one for which we have any concrete 
> evidence, and that evidence is indubitable.
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> That is of course a strong evidence for a physical reality, but unless we 
> buy the Aristotelian theology, “seeing” is not an evidence for a 
> metaphysical reality. 
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> I think the whole problem is here:  a confusion for the evidence for 
> physics with an evidence for a metaphysics. This has worked for 1500 years, 
> only by terror, violence, and then habits, and the constant hiding of the 
> (mind-body) problem under the rug (notably through “fairy tales”).
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> Physics is a wonderful science, but to make physics systematically, 
> without argument nor evidence,  into a metaphysics is a form of “modern” 
> charlatanism, when made consciously, and still a form of obscurantism when 
> done by ignorance. With science, doubts are mandatory.
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> Bruno
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Physics (a collection of "accepted" formulated [in mathematical language] 
theories - the Standard Model, General Relativity - and "pending" ones - 
string theory, cosmic inflation, loop quantum gravity...) is a type of 
fictionalism. But is a different "genre" of fiction than mathematics.

*Fictions, Inference, and Realism*
Mauricio Suárez
http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/5013/1/Fictions%2C_Inference%2C_and_Realism.pdf


Abstract: 
*It is often assumed without argument that fictionalism in the philosophy 
of science contradicts scientific realism. This paper is a critical 
analysis of this assumption. The kind of fictionalism that is at present 
discussed in philosophy of science is characterized, and distinguished from 
fictionalism in other areas. A distinction is then drawn between forms of 
fictional representation, and two competing accounts of fiction in science 
are discussed. I then outline explicitly what I take to be the argument for 
the incompatibility of scientific realism with fictionalism. I argue that 
some of its premises are unwarranted, and are moreover questionable from a 
fictionalist perspective. The conclusion is that fictionalism is neutral in 
the realism-antirealism debate, pulling neither in favor nor against 
scientific realism.*


- pt


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