On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:34:26AM -0700, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote: > > > On 4/18/2019 2:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > For > instance, without an observer to interpret a certain pile of atoms as > a machine, it is just a pile of atoms. > > Are you saying that Mars Rover cannot interpret some of its data on Mars, > when nobody observed it, or are you saying that Mars Rover has enough > observation abilities? > > > What makes the Mars Rover a machine is that it can act and react to its > environment. If it's an AI Rover it can learn and plan and reflect. To > invoke > an "observer" is just push the problem away to "What is an observer?"
To not recognise the observer is simply to put the problem under a rug. Without an interpretation that voltages in excess of 3V represent 1, and voltages less than 2V represent 0, the logic circuits are just analogue electrical circuits. Without such an interpretation (and ipso facto an observer), the rover is not processing data at all! Note an observer need be nothing more than a mapping of physical space to semantic space. One possibility is to bootstrap the observer by self-reflection. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Senior Research Fellow hpco...@hpcoders.com.au Economics, Kingston University http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
