On 4/18/2019 4:24 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:34:26AM -0700, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List wrote:On 4/18/2019 2:19 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: For instance, without an observer to interpret a certain pile of atoms as a machine, it is just a pile of atoms. Are you saying that Mars Rover cannot interpret some of its data on Mars, when nobody observed it, or are you saying that Mars Rover has enough observation abilities? What makes the Mars Rover a machine is that it can act and react to its environment. If it's an AI Rover it can learn and plan and reflect. To invoke an "observer" is just push the problem away to "What is an observer?"To not recognise the observer is simply to put the problem under a rug. Without an interpretation that voltages in excess of 3V represent 1, and voltages less than 2V represent 0, the logic circuits are just analogue electrical circuits. Without such an interpretation (and ipso facto an observer), the rover is not processing data at all!
No. That's the point of the environment. Acting in the environment provides purpose and meaning to all that stuff. Just think of how you, if you were an observer, would estimate whether are not the Rover was intelligent? was self-aware?
Note an observer need be nothing more than a mapping of physical space to semantic space. One possibility is to bootstrap the observer by self-reflection.
So you think the Rover will interpret data if some other AI consults it's dictionary and nominates what it sees as "A Mars Rover"???
Brent
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