Then if it is not a complete description, why do you call it "self-reference" ? You should just call it: "a table of parameters". The true self-reference is complete: it is included in itself in its entirety. And is doing this without getting into infinite regress. The reason it can avoid infinite regress is that the true self-reference is an unformal entity. Or as I read some guy saying: self-reference neither is nor not-is, self-reference neither exists nor not-exists. It is a very special kind of entity.
On Thursday, 18 April 2019 20:56:08 UTC+3, Brent wrote: > > > No. A "model" is not a complete description, it's a representation of > some specific aspects. Your "self-reference" cannot refer to everything > about yourself...which according to you is a stream of consciousness. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

