Then if it is not a complete description, why do you call it 
"self-reference" ? You should just call it: "a table of parameters". The 
true self-reference is complete: it is included in itself in its entirety. 
And is doing this without getting into infinite regress. The reason it can 
avoid infinite regress is that the true self-reference is an unformal 
entity. Or as I read some guy saying: self-reference neither is nor not-is, 
self-reference neither exists nor not-exists. It is a very special kind of 
entity.

On Thursday, 18 April 2019 20:56:08 UTC+3, Brent wrote:
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>
> No.  A "model" is not a complete description, it's a representation of 
> some specific aspects.  Your "self-reference" cannot refer to everything 
> about yourself...which according to you is a stream of consciousness.
>
>

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