Vitalism is still true. Nobody knows how a being develops from embryo to 
its fully developed form. DNA is just a book. Nobody knows how it actually 
functions. It might well receive top-down influence in levels from higher 
order consciousness that guides the development of the biological entity.

Then Lob is just talking about other things. The true self-reference is not 
formalisable, since neither is nor not-is.

On Friday, 19 April 2019 02:27:31 UTC+3, Russell Standish wrote:
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> The same argument was made in favour of vitalism - before the 
> structure and mechanics of DNA was discovered. 
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> Self-reference is formalisable. See Löb's theorem. 
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