With (panpsychic-experiential) materialism:

 - the self is not eternal  :(   [ of course you could be frozen in the 
hope for some future technology ])
 - it is an independent consciousness (pretty much so, introducing outside 
chemicals aside)

- pt


On Friday, April 19, 2019 at 4:21:25 AM UTC-5, Cosmin Visan wrote:
>
> No, this cannot be done. The Self is eternal and it exists necessarily by 
> the fact that it self-refers itself. All you can do is to give the Self 
> different experiences and make him believe he is an individual 
> consciousness. This is happening for example in biological reproduction. 
> What biological reproduction is doing is to make the unique Self to believe 
> he is an independent consciousness. But in order to make him believe that, 
> you need to follow specific conditions as they are realized in biology. As 
> of today, we have no idea what those conditions are that biology satisfy in 
> order to make the Self believe he is an independent consciousness.
>
> On Friday, 19 April 2019 11:09:36 UTC+3, Philip Thrift wrote:
>>
>>
>> Of course (as you know) I say one could bring a "bunch of atoms together" 
>> to get something that is a conscious self.
>>
>

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