My feedback for you, if you care for it, is to find a way to disprove your
ideas in principle. What fact, if uncovered, what clearly show your ideas
to be false?  What counter-intuitive prediction could be used to test them?

Without that, all you appear to have is a set of ideas, a little too close
to solipsism, in which explanations for anything can be generated in terms
of mysterious forms of consciousness.

Terren

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 11:22 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <
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> You can still continue to make science as you are doing it today, in order
> to increase the quality of life. The thing is that you never had causality,
> determinism, prediction, and any hope of understanding the universe to
> start with. What we gain is precisely this: the ability to understand
> existence. You can still make predicitons, but they will be prediciton of
> the kind: "If you put your hand into the fire, you will get burned. Don't
> you believe me ? Try it!", namely predictions by way of experience. First
> someone experiences something (without prediction what it will be, because
> you cannot predict something that you never experienced), and then by
> understanding the context that generated that specific meaning, you will
> invite other consciousness to put themselves into that precise context. God
> himself created the world in order to experience things. He couldn't have
> imagined by his own will new qualia, because he didn't have the proper
> contexts for those qualia to be brought into existence. So he forgot about
> himself and reincarnated in all the consciousness in the world, and those
> consciousness through their interactions establish contexts and contexts
> give birth to meaning/qualia. This way, God gets to know himself. Is the
> only way.
>
> On Monday, 22 April 2019 15:48:32 UTC+3, Terren Suydam wrote:
>>
>> So to summarize:
>>
>>    - We lose: causality, determinism, prediction, and any hope of
>>    understanding the universe without getting into the minds of competing
>>    consciousnesses, some proportion of which don't inhabit biological bodies
>>    - We gain:
>>
>> Can you help me out with that second line? Why should anyone take your
>> theory seriously when it means jettisoning science? What's the payoff?
>>
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