> On 17 May 2019, at 23:02, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 5/17/2019 7:21 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>>> But imagine that you are sent, without knowing, in a virtual reality. >>>> Then, if it is rough, you will surely guess that you are in a virtual >>>> reality, like in a lucid dream, or like in a video game. >>> >>> This is incoherent. If you are the series of computations there is no >>> perspective from which you can see you are in a dream. You only recognize >>> dreams by comparing them to reality. >> >> You are implicitly begging the question of reality, but you are right. To >> see if we are in a simulation it is enough to compare what we see with the >> physical reality, which is given by the statistic on all computations, where >> there are not pixels, but quantum-like events. You can’t conclude we are >> awake, but if the obersvbale are different from the material mode of the >> universal machine, > > It is. The observable is the classical. Observable means third person > sharable, a record. The mode of the universal machine, per current theories, > is quantum and no more than half-observable (Holevo's theorem).
Confirming mechanism. Below our level of substitution, the logic is no more boolean, but quantum-like. > >> we know that computationalism is false, or that we are in a (malevolent) >> simulation. > > I think Trump is evidence for the latter. We can hope, but I am afraid Trump is locally real enough to not wait waking up, but do something. Now, I don’t do politics here, but I do a bit of it on Facebook, you are welcome. Yes, Trump is grave and Barr is worst, they want that the party, and Trump, to be above the laws, which is a threat on all democracies. The republicans seem to be hypnotised by Trump, which seems hypnotised by Putin. Bruno > > Brent > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/19d4f046-fbd1-4a97-2eb7-012fb9e7aaf7%40verizon.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/8E5CC9AB-CE48-40B5-AEB4-CFF124989420%40ulb.ac.be.
