On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 9:29 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> LISP machines were just Turing Machines > > > > *Nonsense.* > OK let me see if I've got this right: you think it is nonsense to believe that a Turing Machine could simulate a computer that became obsolete more than 30 years ago. Is that what you're saying? Is that the hill you're willing to die on? > >>>>I am telling you that matter is needed to make that happen, in this >>> case the matter in the microprocessor of the computer that is running the >>> video game that is using Bitcoins as money. >> >> >> >>> But why? >> > >> Why what? > > > > *Why assuming primary matter, * > I don't care if you assume "primary matter" or not regardless of what that piece of philosophical gobbledygook happens to mean today. I am just telling you that matter is needed to mine Bitcoins that you can use to buy stuff. > > what is it, and how would that make a computation more real than others? > A Bitcoin that can be used to buy a car is real, and a calculation used to mine that Bitcoin is more real than a calculation that lacks this Bitcoin mining car buying property. > *> Why to make that assumption,* >> > >> What assumption? > *> The assumption that there is a physical universe, and that in > metaphysics* [...] > If you've taught me one thing it's that metaphysics is crap, so assume anything you like about it, I don't care. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0ibo8g07Fz8iQA0-no%3DkWGT3M-qTVLY3vuT1dZB9cERQ%40mail.gmail.com.
