On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 4:15 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:


> >> I don't care if you assume "primary matter" or not regardless of what
>> that piece of philosophical gobbledygook happens to mean today. I am just
>> telling you that matter is needed to mine Bitcoins that you can use to buy
>> stuff.
>
>
> > *Relatively to us, no-one doubt this,*
>

Then there is at least one thing that a Turing Machine can do that Lambda
Calculus or Turing quintuplets can not do, and there is no doubt about it.
So stop pretending that Turing quintuplets are more profound than Turing
Machines, the oposite is true.

>> A Bitcoin that can be used to buy a car is real, and a calculation used
>> to mine that Bitcoin is more real than a calculation that lacks this
>> Bitcoin mining car buying property.
>
>
> *> In your theology. *
>

So let me see if I've got this straight. If I believe in theology X then
I'll need about half a ton of expensive hardware and many megawatt hours of
electricity to mine even a few Bitcoins that I can use to buy stuff; but if
I convert to "theology" Y then I can mine Bitcoins with no hardware at all
and won't need one single watt of electricity.  And as a bonus if I change
the "theology" I believe in I will not only get rich I'll change the very
laws of physics. And I wouldn't even have to go as far as to change my
"religion", I could just change an assumption and a definition or two and
presto change-o I'm more powerful then God.

I conclude from your usage that I still don't know what "theology" means in
Brunospeak and please don't crank out yet another definition of it because
you've just given me an example and examples are far more powerful than
definitions. But I have learned that whatever the meaning of that word is
in Brunospeak it has absolutely nothing to do with the English meaning of
the word, and the same holds true for "assumption" and "religion".

> *> Why to make that assumption,*
>>>
>> >> What assumption?
>>
> *> That the God Matter is primitively real.*
>

The first problem is you don't know what the word "assumption" means in
English. The second problem is I don't know what "God Matter" means in
Brunospeak;  for a while I thought I almost sorta understood what
"primitively real" meant in your strange language but then from your usage
it was obvious the meaning had mutated away once more to a unknown place,
so now I'm back to square one.

 John K Clark

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