On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 3:16:05 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 25 Jul 2019, at 21:19, Philip Thrift <[email protected] <javascript:>> > wrote: > > > > > Actually, from the *Stawsonian materialist view*, *most neuroscientists > do not believe in matter*, or rather, they believe in a facade of matter > absent experientiality. > > > That seems like a contradiction. How could something be a facade in case > of absent experentiality. You might elaborate a little bit here. > > > Matter (panpsychist view) has both physical ϕ (behavioral, informational) and psychical ψ (experiential) properties. Conventionally, scientists only think matter has ϕ
> Feyerabend talked of science and religion, but as science has been turned > into a religion, > > > Something unavoidable when you separate science and theology. With becomes > pseudo-science and pseudo-religion. > > > > > with scientists claiming that their theoretical entities are godlike in > their reality (their "truth”), > > > … which of course is highly NON scientific. A scientist never claim that a > theory is true, only that is not refuted, and explain something better than > another theory, or things like that. > > > For example, at least in articles written for the public, physicists talk of 'fields' entities of QFT *QFT treats particles as excited states (also called quanta) of their underlying fields, which are—in a sense—more fundamental than the basic particles. *[Wikipedia] as being real. So fields in the above context are talked about as being real, vs. mathematical fictions modeling an underlying reality. Thus physics becomes like *a catechism of a religious denomination*. > > and thus other competing theoretical entities are like other gods that > should be banned. > > > > Yes. A part of the academical world remains “religious” in metaphysics. > But not all, far from that. But those who does not make extraordinary > pseudo-religious claim attracts less the attention of the media. Or when > they do, the journalists can’t publish their papers ... > > Bruno > > Science journalists are not to blame. Scientists are for misinforming them. @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/68a2e20e-350e-4007-88e2-858ae68ca51e%40googlegroups.com.
