> On 29 Jul 2019, at 21:18, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > But this is interesting: > > [ via > http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-forgotten-solution-superdeterminism.html > > <http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-forgotten-solution-superdeterminism.html> > ] > > > > The Weak Reality That Makes Quantum Phenomena More Natural: Novel Insights > and Experiments > Yakir Aharonov, Eliahu Cohen, Mordecai Waegell, and Avshalom C. Elitzur > November 7, 2018 > https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/20/11/854/htm > > Abstract: While quantum reality can be probed through measurements, the > Two-State Vector Formalism (TSVF) reveals a subtler reality prevailing > between measurements. Under special pre- and post-selections, odd physical > values emerge. This unusual picture calls for a deeper study. Instead of the > common, wave-based picture of quantum mechanics, we suggest a new, > particle-based perspective: Each particle possesses a definite location > throughout its evolution, while some of its physical variables (characterized > by deterministic operators, some of which obey nonlocal equations of motion) > are carried by “mirage particles” accounting for its unique behavior. Within > the time interval between pre- and post-selection, the particle gives rise to > a horde of such mirage particles, of which some can be negative. What appears > to be “no-particle”, known to give rise to interaction-free measurement, is > in fact a self-canceling pair of positive and negative mirage particles, > which can be momentarily split and cancel out again. Feasible experiments can > give empirical evidence for these fleeting phenomena. In this respect, the > Heisenberg ontology is shown to be conceptually advantageous compared to the > Schrödinger picture. We review several recent advances, discuss their > foundational significance and point out possible directions for future > research.
I have not the time to read the paper, but it seems, from the abstract that this run into a similar problem than with Bohm-Debroglie type of theories. We could in principle build a mirage observer, and with mechanism, it cannot be a zombie. So, it is like introducing “stuff” to select a reality, which is incompatible with digital mechanism. So this goes outside the frame of my hypothesis, and this move, like Bohm, calls for a non computationalist theory of mind (like actually Bohm advocated). Bruno > > @philipthrift > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/ec39559b-dbe4-40e0-ab99-6270f85aabf2%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/ec39559b-dbe4-40e0-ab99-6270f85aabf2%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/7A120515-E3E5-43C6-A954-1BABF66946B5%40ulb.ac.be.
