If it isn't stuff (at the bottom of it), it it isn't real. Otherwise, it is idealism, which physics (as today's "popular" physicists present it to the public) has become today.
*In philosophy, idealism is the group of metaphysical philosophies that assert that reality, or reality as humans can know it, is fundamentally mental, mentally constructed, or otherwise immaterial.* @philipthrift On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 3:09:51 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > There may not be any stuff that is quantum. The paper looks to be a > further extension of weak measurements devised by Aharonov. > > LC > > On Monday, July 29, 2019 at 2:18:02 PM UTC-5, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> But this is interesting: >> >> [ via >> http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-forgotten-solution-superdeterminism.html >> ] >> >> >> >> *The Weak Reality That Makes Quantum Phenomena More Natural: Novel >> Insights and Experiments* >> Yakir Aharonov, Eliahu Cohen, Mordecai Waegell, and Avshalom C. Elitzur >> November 7, 2018 >> https://www.mdpi.com/1099-4300/20/11/854/htm >> >> *Abstract*: While quantum reality can be probed through measurements, >> the Two-State Vector Formalism (TSVF) reveals a subtler reality prevailing >> between measurements. Under special pre- and post-selections, odd physical >> values emerge. This unusual picture calls for a deeper study. Instead of >> the common, wave-based picture of quantum mechanics, we suggest a new, >> particle-based perspective: Each particle possesses a definite location >> throughout its evolution, while some of its physical variables >> (characterized by deterministic operators, some of which obey nonlocal >> equations of motion) are carried by “mirage particles” accounting for its >> unique behavior. Within the time interval between pre- and post-selection, >> the particle gives rise to a horde of such mirage particles, of which some >> can be negative. What appears to be “no-particle”, known to give rise to >> interaction-free measurement, is in fact a self-canceling pair of positive >> and negative mirage particles, which can be momentarily split and cancel >> out again. Feasible experiments can give empirical evidence for these >> fleeting phenomena. In this respect, the Heisenberg ontology is shown to be >> conceptually advantageous compared to the Schrödinger picture. We review >> several recent advances, discuss their foundational significance and point >> out possible directions for future research. >> >> @philipthrift >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/9665b478-7389-41f8-9f5d-01c4f68e5aff%40googlegroups.com.
