On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 10:35 PM 'Brent Meeker' < [email protected]> wrote:
> *> Expecting what you will experience after pushing the button must refer > to thoughts before the button is pushed, so "you" must refer to the > Helsinki man. * OK, but the very definition of "The Helsinki Man" is the man who is experiencing Helsinki right now today. Or at least that's the definition on Mondays Wednesdays and Fridays, but on other days of the week the definition is the man who REMEMBERS experiencing Helsinki today, and on those days the Helsinki Man would be a fool to expect that the Helsinki Man would experience one and only one thing tomorrow. > * > And the answer is not "Nothing" because the Helsinki man exists before > the button is pushed. "Expecting" is having a thought about the future. * > Right, and John Clark expects that tomorrow nobody will be experiencing Helsinki today. It may seem like John Clark is being overly pedantic but Brent Meeker needs to be that way too if the conversation is about the nature of personal identity and personal identity duplicating machines are involved. But all this confusion could be totally avoided if people on this list would simply STOP USING PERSONAL PRONOUNS and replace them with their proper noun referent; they don't need to do this all the time, only when personal pronoun duplicating machines are thrown into the hypothetical mix. The very fact that nobody, absolutely positively nobody on this list except for John Clark is able to stop themselves from continuing to use them is clear indication to John Clark that they cannot because personal pronouns are being used to cover up multiple holes in the logical structure of their argument. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2YggbGdK-YDhae_Y2BYsaf%2BzJ%3Dkw4eJxm%2Bw9pUTEsJUQ%40mail.gmail.com.
