> On 17 Dec 2019, at 07:01, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Le mar. 17 déc. 2019 à 04:54, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 2:35 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> 
> wrote:
> On 12/16/2019 6:31 PM, John Clark wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 5:29 PM Quentin Anciaux <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>  
>> > You're so absurd after so many years... Just put your shoes in the 
>> > experiment,
>> 
>> Who's shoes should I put my feet into, the H Man's the W Man's, or the M 
>> Man's?
>> 
>> > imagine you in front of the button,
>> 
>> OK
>>  
>> > what do you expect after pushing it.. 
>> 
>> If "you" means the W Man I expect to be experiencing W. 
> 
> Expecting what you will experience after pushing the button must refer to 
> thoughts before the button is pushed, so "you" must refer to the Helsinki 
> man.  And the answer is not "Nothing" because the Helsinki man exists before 
> the button is pushed.  "Expecting" is having a thought about the future.  So 
> the question is clear enough.
> 
> But Quentin did say "expect AFTER pushing it". Not BEFORE pushing it. So 
> after pushing the button, H-man is duplicated to both W and M: So the W copy 
> expects Washington, and the M copy expects Moscow.
> 
> No I mean is in front of the button ready to be pushing it, what does he 
> expect will happen, what does he expect he will see the next moment after 
> pushingit, the question is asked by the Helsinki man to himself... Wilk he 
> vanish from existence ? Will he see m or w ? Will he see m and w ? The 
> question is clear, has been for more than twenty years now, only bad faith 
> has make it go through 2019 again... And will through 2029.


It is a mystery. Camus said that stupidity always persists. That is clearly the 
case for bad faith. 

Bruno




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