> On 17 Dec 2019, at 04:35, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 12/16/2019 6:31 PM, John Clark wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 5:29 PM Quentin Anciaux <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> > You're so absurd after so many years... Just put your shoes in the >> > experiment, >> >> Who's shoes should I put my feet into, the H Man's the W Man's, or the M >> Man's? >> >> > imagine you in front of the button, >> >> OK >> >> > what do you expect after pushing it.. >> >> If "you" means the W Man I expect to be experiencing W. > > Expecting what you will experience after pushing the button must refer to > thoughts before the button is pushed, so "you" must refer to the Helsinki > man.
Exactly. We rarely ask to the winner of the lottery if he expect to win the lottery. We can at most ask him ig he expected to win the lottery. > And the answer is not "Nothing" because the Helsinki man exists before the > button is pushed. "Expecting" is having a thought about the future. So the > question is clear enough. Yes, especially that John Clark did agree that the H-guy remains alive through the process. If he meant that he expect nothing, he meant that he dies in the duplication, which means he abandons the Mechanist Assumption. That makes the point. If Indexical Digital Mechanism is correct, the H-guy knows that he will feel to survive in one city, and know that he cannot logically predict which one he (in its 1p-indexical sense) will feel to experience. Bruno > > Brent > >> If "you" means the M Man I expect to be experiencing M. If "you" means the >> H Man I expect to be experiencing nothing at all because after that button >> is pushed nobody will be in H. Any other questions? >> >> John K Clark >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2t1%3DPCp2EQKpuYGkpzw_s%3DpyzM8u%3DQw%2B7Z2O6NhzLEDA%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2t1%3DPCp2EQKpuYGkpzw_s%3DpyzM8u%3DQw%2B7Z2O6NhzLEDA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/bfc5eb65-7703-7f8a-1022-b937cf5e2f44%40verizon.net > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/bfc5eb65-7703-7f8a-1022-b937cf5e2f44%40verizon.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/643B9F4E-0BF9-4C7C-AE30-8C06E06000DE%40ulb.ac.be.
