My only reply Bruno, is using information in biologicals like ourselves (what else is there?) and the practices of computer science going back decades. Unix forking is a means of protecting information, as well as checksum. The universe may not work this way at all with information, but I guess it might. If one produces a continuer with virtually the same info as the original, and we would need to discuss this intensely, on what constitutes a genuine Bob or Alice? We have seen people on this forum, reject the continuer or simulation, as axiomatically wrong, rather than consider this, which for me indicates that I am dealing with the part of the brain called the amygdala, and not the part of the brain that deals with math. If the original species, turns into smoke, and there are two nearly identical copies in Moscow or Bruges, let them fight over the inheritance. Have a jolly New Year.
-----Original Message----- From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Dec 31, 2019 9:58 am Subject: Re: Superdeterminism in comics On 30 Dec 2019, at 19:26, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: For whatever stupid reason, I tended to agree with the late US philosopher, Nozick, on whomever lands in DC or Moscow, or yeah, and afterlife, it's the closest continuer. Is it disputable, sure go ahead. But as we say in the US, 'close enough for government work!' It's how much accurate data the copy or clone contains? Thus, I am willing to consider the clone (screw the no-cloning theorem), the "soul" because the dude is alive in MOCKBA drinking piva (beer) while the DC version is smoked. In Helsinki? Again, The difference between a rock and a rabbit, is the information it contains-that was from Claude Shannon. The only problem I see here is that if the difference is only in the information, the closer continuer cannot make the difference, as it is the same information sent to Moscow and to Washington. Nozick's Closest Continuer theory does not make sense once we assume Mechanism, which is indeed based on the idea that a brain is nothing more than an information treatment machine. I don’t claim Mechanism is true. I claim only that it is incompatible with Nozick theory. OK? Does everyone see this? Bruno -----Original Message----- From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Dec 30, 2019 10:54 am Subject: Re: Superdeterminism in comics > On 28 Dec 2019, at 06:47, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On 12/20/2019 4:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> But the question is about the prediction of his future 1p-experience. Here >> the guy can assert that he (in Helsinki) can predict with certainty that he >> will feel to be in only one place, but he cannot, for obvious reason, write >> dow which one in his diary. > > How can he be certain of that? Maybe he will experience both places. Would > it make any difference if he predicted that? If the Helsinki guy predicts that he will experience both places 5washington and Moscow), and that indeed both copies claim and show that indeed they are in both place, that would entail a form of telepathy which is logically impossible with (Indexical Digital) Mechanism. I think that both Moscow and Washington will be interested as this will give a new efficacious way of spying! Bruno > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/83d74b4e-1486-d532-4ed2-e212495ce7ef%40verizon.net. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/A8E7E518-9F03-4A58-ADAC-128F90B1D2B4%40ulb.ac.be. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1440948674.5866408.1577730416402%40mail.yahoo.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/D62E215D-ABE4-4AA8-9B47-1BE152A79DBB%40ulb.ac.be. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1072772705.6347924.1577820584847%40mail.yahoo.com.
