On Monday, January 20, 2020 at 1:12:45 AM UTC-7, Alan Grayson wrote:
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> On Monday, January 20, 2020 at 12:57:55 AM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
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>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 5:59 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> On Sunday, January 19, 2020 at 10:50:46 PM UTC-7, Bruce wrote:
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>>>> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 4:19 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> 
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>>>>> *Last sentence above: I mean that if it had a "start" with infinite 
>>>>> spatial extent, that would seem to mean it did NOT have an infinite 
>>>>> spatial 
>>>>> extent just prior to the start. For me this seems like a singularity, an 
>>>>> infinite physical process which occurs in zero time. If I were betting, 
>>>>> I'd 
>>>>> bet on a finite closed universe for any universe which "starts", not for 
>>>>> the Multiverse. AG*
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>>>> You can bet any way you want. I doubt that the universe gives a shit.
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>>>> Bruce
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>>> *I'd go further and ask one question: it obviously doesn't. Is this your 
>>> idea of value-added? What I think it displays is your firmly held belief 
>>> that it's flat, and anger that someone might think otherwise. Not your 
>>> finest hour. AG *
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>> Not anger -- just frustration at your intransigence. I don't care what 
>> you think, so why should I be angry?
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>> Bruce
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*Correction in CAPS below: *

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> *Annoyance is only slightly removed from anger. Maybe you're being 
> intransigent. As Brent pointed out, many origin theories have a "beginning" 
> or "start", so before that our universe CAME INTO BEING, IT didn't exist 
> (not to be confused with the Multiverse, WHICH COULD BE ANYTHING, FLAT, 
> ETERNAL, WHO KNOWS?). But then, magically perhaps, it comes into 
> instantaneous existence having an infinite spatial extent since it's 
> alleged to be flat. For a genius like you, there's nothing to be explained 
> here. AG *
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