What is Scott Aaronson's counterexample to IIT?

Is he in agreement with Mørch?

@philipthrift



On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 4:19:08 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote:
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> It's my impression that Scott Aaronson's counter example pretty well 
> disposed of IIT.
>
> Brent
>
> On 1/27/2020 1:12 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:
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> *IIT vs. Russellian Monism: A Metaphysical Showdown on the Content of 
> Experience*
> Matteo Grasso
>
> https://www.academia.edu/38261136/IIT_vs._Russellian_Monism_A_Metaphysical_Showdown_on_the_Content_of_Experience
>
> Integrated information theory (IIT) (Oizumi, Albantakis and Tononi, 2014; 
> Tononi et al., 2016) attempts to account for both the quantitative and the 
> phenomenal aspects of consciousness, and in taking consciousness as 
> fundamental and widespread it bears similarities to panpsychist Russellian 
> monism (RM). In this paper I compare IIT's and RM's (in its categoricalist 
> version) response to the conceivability argument, and their metaphysical 
> account of conscious experience. I start by claiming that RM neutralizes 
> the conceivability argument, but that by virtue of its commitment to 
> categoricalism it doesn't exclude fickle qualia scenarios (e.g. inverted or 
> changing qualia). I argue that IIT's core notion of intrinsic cause-effect 
> power makes it incompatible with categoricalist versions of RM (Chalmers, 
> 2013; Alter and Nagasawa, 2015) and, to the contrary, is best understood as 
> entailing pandispositionalism, the view for which all properties are 
> powers. I show that, thus construed, IIT can cope with both the 
> conceivability and with the fickle qualia arguments, offers a promising way 
> to account for the content of experience, and hence is preferable to 
> categoricalist RM.
>
>
>
> *Is Consciousness Intrinsic?: A Problem for the Integrated Information 
> Theory*
> Hedda Hassel Mørch
> https://philpapers.org/rec/MRCICI
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> The Integrated Information Theory of consciousness (IIT) claims that 
> consciousness is identical to maximal integrated information, or maximal Φ. 
> One objection to IIT is based on what may be called the intrinsicality 
> problem: consciousness is an intrinsic property, but maximal Φ is an 
> extrinsic property; therefore, they cannot be identical. In this paper, I 
> show that this problem is not unique to IIT, but rather derives from a 
> trilemma that confronts almost any theory of consciousness. Given most 
> theories of consciousness, the following three claims are inconsistent. 
> INTRINSICALITY: Consciousness is intrinsic. NON-OVERLAP: Conscious systems 
> do not overlap with other conscious systems (a la Unger’s problem of the 
> many). REDUCTIONISM: Consciousness is constituted by more fundamental 
> properties (as per standard versions of physicalism and Russellian monism). 
> In view of this, I will consider whether rejecting INTRINSICALITY is 
> necessarily less plausible than rejecting NON-OVERLAP or REDUCTIONISM. I 
> will also consider whether IIT is necessarily committed to rejecting 
> INTRINSICALITY or whether it could also accept solutions that reject 
> NON-OVERLAP or REDUCTIONISM instead. I will suggest that the best option 
> for IIT may be a solution that rejects REDUCTIONISM rather than 
> INTRINSICALITY or NON-OVERLAP.
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> @philipthrift
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