On Tuesday, January 28, 2020 at 7:31:54 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 1/28/2020 3:31 PM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > > Maybe. But the failure I wrote of applies if consciousness occurs only in > brains (or even in just human brains) and IIT only applies to that. Unless > IIT is modified as Mørch proposes, but then IIT would not be the same IIT > that Aaronson is writing about 6 years ago. > > > It would still fail though, because Scott's counter example includes > things made of matter: > > *In my view, IIT fails to solve the Pretty-Hard Problem because it > unavoidably predicts vast amounts of consciousness in physical systems that > no sane person would regard as particularly “conscious” at all: indeed, > systems that do nothing but apply a low-density parity-check code, or other > simple transformations of their input data. Moreover, IIT predicts not > merely that these systems are “slightly” conscious (which would be fine), > but that they can be unboundedly more conscious than humans are.* > > Brent >
Hedda negates the *unboundedly more.* Even rocks have information-processing properties. Quartz crystal computer rocks "Irrational Computing" has interlinked a series of untreated crystals and minerals to create a primitive signal processor. https://www.cnet.com/news/quartz-crystal-computer-rocks/ @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/a00bb5ea-cb34-4870-b0ea-1a1988218d15%40googlegroups.com.
