> On 23 Feb 2020, at 23:40, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 12:07 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > On 22 Feb 2020, at 23:10, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> The arguments that I have developed here, based on Kent's insight, take >> Many-worlds at face value. Then the theory is clearly incoherent, or at >> least incompatible with observation. However, if you take a classical >> deterministic theory, such as Bruno's WM-duplication thought experiment, >> then there is no way you can sensibly interpret such a theory >> probabilistically. > > It is the experiences obtained which cannot avoid the probabilities. That is > the cute part: we get 1p unavoidable probabilities from a 3p purely > deterministic picture. > > The problem is that different observers infer different probabilities from > their individual 1p perspectives -- there is no 3p probability in these > purely deterministic pictures.
With mechanism, they know that they cannot favour any private account, but verify them by listing, and taking into account all the histories, brought bay all 1p experiences. The 3p probabilities are, like anything 3p sharable, only inferred; Nobody can observe a probability. And you are right, there is no 3p probabilities in the 3p pictures given by Mechanism and/or Everett. That is what people appreciate, the probabilities are pure 1p. But still objectively defined and studied, like in QM. Bruno > > Bruce > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLS-FzGfXJkZ%3DrZyDfDQvnbYnDEDcNsiOn4%3DkA4qni62QA%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLS-FzGfXJkZ%3DrZyDfDQvnbYnDEDcNsiOn4%3DkA4qni62QA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CB8A24EF-885B-441A-8BE5-73F6D0B9C36D%40ulb.ac.be.

