On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 5:04 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
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> On 2/22/2020 9:50 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote:
>
> It is imposed in such a way as to agree with experiment, yes. But that is
> how the Born rule was arrived at in the first instance. Consequently, MWI
> is no better than Copenhagen in this respect. Gleason's theorem is only of
> use if you first assume that there is a probability distribution -- that
> the theory is probabilistic. But Everett is deterministic, not
> probabilistic.
>
>
> And Everett recognized the problem and tried to derive the Born rule.
>

His derivation was nothing more than the assumption of probability and the
assumption of additivity.

But I see as just overselling MWI.  So it needs an axiom of probability
> added to the deterministic evolution...no problem.  The problem that
> remains is decoherent diagonalization of the reduced density matrix is only
> FAPP.  Schlosshauer talks about doing a Schmidt decomposition to make it
> strictly diagonal; but he recognizes that's just mathematical
> transformation with not physical counterpart.
>

Yes. Many-worlds, far from being an advance, is just as arbitrary as
Copenhagen, with the additional disadvantage of having to get rid of the
surplus worlds. Decoherence doesn't really do a good job of that.

Bruce

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