On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 12:21 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 23 Feb 2020, at 04:11, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> I don't really understand your comment. I was thinking of Bruno's
> WM-duplication. You could impose the idea that each duplication at each
> branch point on every branch is an independent Bernoulli trial with p = 0.5
> on this (success being defined arbitrarily as W or M). Then, if these
> probabilities carry over from trial to trial, you end up with every binary
> sequence, each with weight 1/2^N. Summing sequences with the same number of
> 0s and 1s, you get the Pascal Triangle distribution that Bruno wants.
>
> The trouble is that such a procedure is entirely arbitrary. The only
> probability that one could objectively assign to say, W, on each Bernoulli
> trial is one,
>
>
> That is certainly wrong. If you are correct, then P(W) = 1 is written in
> the personal diary,
>

I did say "objectively assign". In other words, this was a 3p comment. You
confuse 1p with 3p yet again.

which is taken with in the duplication box. But then the guy in M will open
> its diary and see that his P = 1 is refuted. It is enough that once copy
> refute a prediction to abandon it as valid.
>
> since W certainly occurs for each trial.
>
>
> Not from the first person perspective.
>

Same comment as above. You use a basic confusion between 3p and 1p
perspectives to criticize the clear points that I am making.

Sometimes it could be M, and the first person experience of “felling being
> in M” is logical incompatible (with the protocole described here) with the
> experience of “feeling to be in W”. No copies at all will feel to be in the
> two cities at once. That never occurs.
>

I have never claimed that they will confuse 0 and 1 in their binary diary
records. It is just that on repetition of the duplication trials, all
diaries record different strings. And each diary is a legitimate source
from which an observer can infer a probability value. These probability
values cover the complete range p contained in [0,1]. There is no unique or
natural probability for this scenario. Any probability interpretation that
you impose is entirely arbitrary.

Bruce

>
> Bruno
>
> In other words, there is no natural probability associated with this
> duplication process, so imposing one is ad hoc and arbitrary.
>
>

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