On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 8:06:10 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: > On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> via > Everything List wrote: > > >> [Me] Nations? People? You're showing a remarkable lack of imagination >> and making a lot of unwarranted assumptions. A 100 years from now (maybe >> less than 50) nation states will certainly no longer exist and even >> something that you are I would recognize as a biological human being >> probably won't. >> >> >> > The only way I see that is if we snuff ourselves out, which is >> possible. >> > > I'm not talking about humans snuffing themselves out although I admit > that's possible, I'm talking about humans replacing parts of themselves > until there is no longer anything very human about them. Some signals in > the brain move as slowly as .01 meters per second, the slow diffusion of > hormones for example, but even the very fastest signals in the brain move > at only 100 meters per second and light moves at 300,000,000 meters per > second; and in a computer made with Nanotechnology the distances the signal > must travel will be far shorter because the components will be much > smaller. And that's without even considering Quantum Computers. There is > just no way biology can compete with that. > > > Nation states will otherwise probably exist, >> > > Their life expectancy depends on the evolution of Memes not the evolution > of genes as in Darwinian evolution, but Memes evolve astronomically > faster than genes. > > >> > Human also will exist, >> > > Information processing Turing Machines that remember once being human > will still exist a century from now, but if you or I were to see one we > wouldn't say they looked or acted like a human. > > John K Clark >
I have serious doubts about a lot of these hyper-tech ideas that border on science fiction. I really question ideas of minds being downloaded into cybers, or the matryoshka ideas and so forth. These ideas sort of give me a sense of why there were so many of those 1950 science fiction and horror films about mad doctors or scientists hell bent on bizarre quests. I think for the average person these sorts of ideas probably sound little different. One has to remember that while we can pursue a better understanding of the universe, few people want their humanity taken away or to become robots. For some practical reasons I also think there are limits on these things. LC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/686d191f-8d20-40ac-b583-6523b326fd5bn%40googlegroups.com.
