Hi Lawrence, Am So, 11. Okt 2020, um 14:21, schrieb Lawrence Crowell: > On Sunday, October 11, 2020 at 8:06:10 AM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote: >> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 Lawrence Crowell <[email protected]> via >> Everything List wrote: >> >>>> >> [Me] Nations? People? You're showing a remarkable lack of imagination >>>> >> and making a lot of unwarranted assumptions. A 100 years from now >>>> >> (maybe less than 50) nation states will certainly no longer exist and >>>> >> even something that you are I would recognize as a biological human >>>> >> being probably won't. >>> >>> > The only way I see that is if we snuff ourselves out, which is possible. >>> >> >> I'm not talking about humans snuffing themselves out although I admit that's >> possible, I'm talking about humans replacing parts of themselves until there >> is no longer anything very human about them. Some signals in the brain move >> as slowly as .01 meters per second, the slow diffusion of hormones for >> example, but even the very fastest signals in the brain move at only 100 >> meters per second and light moves at 300,000,000 meters per second; and in a >> computer made with Nanotechnology the distances the signal must travel will >> be far shorter because the components will be much smaller. And that's >> without even considering Quantum Computers. There is just no way biology can >> compete with that. >> >> >>> > Nation states will otherwise probably exist, >> >> Their life expectancy depends on the evolution of Memes not the evolution of >> genes as in Darwinian evolution, but Memes evolve astronomically faster than >> genes. >> >>> > Human also will exist, >> >> Information processing Turing Machines that remember once being human will >> still exist a century from now, but if you or I were to see one we wouldn't >> say they looked or acted like a human. >> >> John K Clark > > I have serious doubts about a lot of these hyper-tech ideas that border on > science fiction. I really question ideas of minds being downloaded into > cybers, or the matryoshka ideas and so forth. These ideas sort of give me a > sense of why there were so many of those 1950 science fiction and horror > films about mad doctors or scientists hell bent on bizarre quests. I think > for the average person these sorts of ideas probably sound little different. > One has to remember that while we can pursue a better understanding of the > universe, few people want their humanity taken away or to become robots.
In your understanding of reality, what is the difference between a human and a robot*? Cheers, Telmo * Let us assume sci-fi level stuff here > For some practical reasons I also think there are limits on these things. > > LC > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/686d191f-8d20-40ac-b583-6523b326fd5bn%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/686d191f-8d20-40ac-b583-6523b326fd5bn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/cb8ffe8a-f1a7-4f47-85af-4893619740e7%40www.fastmail.com.

