On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 9:34 AM Terren Suydam <[email protected]> wrote:
*> A theory would give you a way to predict what kinds of beings are > capable of feeling pain* > Finding a theory is not a problem, theories are a dime a dozen consciousness theories doubly so. But how could you ever figure out if your consciousness theory was correct? > we'd say "given theory X, > And if the given X which we take as being true is "Hogwarts exist" then we must logically conclude we could find Harry Potter at that magical school of witchcraft and wizardry. > *we know that if we create an AI with these characteristics,* > If you're talking about observable characteristics then yes, but then you're just talking about behavior not consciousness. *> a theory of consciousness that explains how qualia come to be within a > system,* > Explains? Just what sort of theory would satisfy you and make you say the problem of consciousness has been solved? If I said the chemical Rednosium Oxide produced qualia would all your questions be answered or would you be curious to know how this chemical managed to do that? > > *you could make claims about their experience that go beyond observing > behavior.* > Claims are even easier to come about then theories are, but true claims not so much. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>. . > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1kQhdVYf5O9eLv2%3D16k%3Dm%2BE8mMhGd6CfwL_fGaB-SyHw%40mail.gmail.com.

